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| Are wiki copies of "classified"government documents legit? | | Yes | | 30% | [ 3 ] | | No It is an international publicity stunt by a wanna be conspiracy theorist. | | 20% | [ 2 ] | | Some documents are some are exaggerated or made up. | | 50% | [ 5 ] |
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|SaD|Colt.45 XBox Live Division Commander

Posts: 3658 Join date: 2010-06-04 Age: 26 Location: Chicago,IL
 | Subject: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Sun Dec 05, 2010 4:30 pm | |
| http://wikileaks.ch/ Ok so lately this newest web phenomenon better known as Wikileaks has been raising all kinds of eyebrowns in both the media and in Washington.Everything from all of these so called classified documents that the site's administrators seem to keep getting their hands on and releasing to the general public to the website's founder Austrailian born Julian Assangefighting criminal allegations pitted against him which he claims are designed by the powers that be to silence him and his "truth"release to the public about the U.S. and its foriegn affairs that we dont always hear about.  To be frankly honest alot of the material that Wikileaks releases on there website which has now been taken down by the web provider does not surprise,atleats not the educated American(such as myself) because we knew this back of the woods stuff was going on with our shady government since the 1960's anyway.Another reason why it does not impress is because alot of it just seems like routine protocol type of stuff like the documents released on the Afghan War casualty figures that suggested the Pentagon has been lying to the public and news media about our casualty figures there.As well as the supposed murder of innocent civilians. As of right now,Asange is in a hot spot but has an advantage seeing that he has put the U.S. government in a hotspot as well.They are scared to touch him or make it seem as if he committed suicide all of a sudden or died of a heart attack lol  And they also cant really stop him from "leaking"info to American people who are already upset with the powers that be and under the U.S. constitution Amendment station Freedom of the press ,have a right to know. Just today more controversy as wikileaks tries to get their website back up and its founder continues to ward off the latest allegations of criminal sexual assault coming from officials in the Netherlands(he has been put on Interpol's Most Wanted list lmao). http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/12/04/national/main7118464.shtml?tag=mncol;lst;1 The U.S State department now finds itself on defense against claims from an anonymous source that it sent emails to students at Columbia University advising them not to download any material from wikileak's sight as it would be a violation of federal law and considering stealing classified information and would also "call into question your ability to deal with confidential information".A spokeperson for the foriegn affairs department claims the email which was intercepted by Culumbia's School of International and Public Affairs Office faculty,is a hoax as are other numerous so called "classified material realeased by Wiki this passing weak in an effort to "thwart the questioning of its own legitamacy,said State department official Philip J. Crowley . I personally think that some but not all of the material released by wikileaks is real and comes from disgruntled government workers in high places that are sore over lack of promotion and acknowledgement for their work.I am and have always been weary of organizations and individuals that claim to know "top secret" informantion or scream CONSPIRACY! every time the wind blows but I do believe that if legit,infomation that is released about things the government wants to keep secret is a right of the American public who elect and count on government officials to do their jobs right. I think the cockiness in Washington of alot of politicians and specialists lead them to be under the false assumption that the government is like a special private club where the few control and keep their dirty little secrets away from the many.So if and that is a legitmate if wiki is legit then i say more power to them and GO GO GO Mr.Assange! I thinkt he key problem nowdays with the internet is that you dont know who is real and whos not because anyone can post anything and all you can do is take it at face value.I take that realization everywhere I go online,even here on my own website lol. |
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Rookerman's Pawn

Posts: 272 Join date: 2010-06-26 Age: 28 Location: Lincoln Township,Ohio
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:32 pm | |
| wann know what I thinK?I think the news is giving this website way too much credibility and attention.I mean first of all whos to say that all the crap that wikileaks comes out with is true or classified?There are all kind of blog websites out there claiming conspiracies and legitimacy.I think some of the documents are true and some aint lol. |
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IronMan64

Posts: 521 Join date: 2010-06-05 Age: 28 Location: Germany
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:48 am | |
| I believe that wikileaks is a legitimate whistle blowing site but I do also believe that they are being served with too much publicity.They were actually better off staying discreet as possible.The news people in America are what is making the situation for them alot worse by putting the government in the spotlight where they dont want to be.Most of the documents they released were proven to be actualy documents from the U.S.,Canada and other officialities.But the things in the documents are really not that surprising actually.A good example is everyone knew there were high casualties in Aghanistan and Iraq and that coalition soldiers were abusing and killing civilians and prisoners by just watching the regular news.Its almost like Wiki just backs up and re-confirms everything already revealed. |
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IronMan64

Posts: 521 Join date: 2010-06-05 Age: 28 Location: Germany
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:50 am | |
| These constant sex allegations against the founder of wikileaks are quite disturbing,even one allegation that he has disease and is trying to spread through sex connection.I hope they are just rumors. |
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Stick

Posts: 241 Join date: 2010-06-10 Age: 20 Location: Staak,Poland
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:02 pm | |
| | Rookerman's Pawn wrote: | | wann know what I thinK?I think the news is giving this website way too much credibility and attention.I mean first of all whos to say that all the crap that wikileaks comes out with is true or classified?There are all kind of blog websites out there claiming conspiracies and legitimacy.I think some of the documents are true and some aint lol. | +1.
I do not get why the American media is making such a frenzie out of this when not all of it can even be confirmed and some of it we already knew about,like the prisoner abuse stuff that Iron man mentioned.And then other material on the site is like boring news,Ive been to the site about a week back just curious and Im like.......ok WHO CARES!

without the oil spill they just need something to harp about lol. |
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|SaD|Lillian Senior Cheif of Staff Operations

Posts: 1282 Join date: 2010-06-06 Age: 25 Location: Phoenix,Arizona Home sweeet home!
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Sat Dec 11, 2010 4:22 pm | |
| | Stick wrote: | | Rookerman's Pawn wrote: | | wann know what I thinK?I think the news is giving this website way too much credibility and attention.I mean first of all whos to say that all the crap that wikileaks comes out with is true or classified?There are all kind of blog websites out there claiming conspiracies and legitimacy.I think some of the documents are true and some aint lol. | +1.
I do not get why the American media is making such a frenzie out of this when not all of it can even be confirmed and some of it we already knew about,like the prisoner abuse stuff that Iron man mentioned.And then other material on the site is like boring news,Ive been to the site about a week back just curious and Im like.......ok WHO CARES!

without the oil spill they just need something to harp about lol. | There has to be some kind of a watch dog group to make sure that the distracted public is kept up to speed on its government's practices Stick.I mean as you indicated,its not exactly liek we can count ont he boased media. |
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|SaD|Justth3tip Director of Recruitment Operations

Posts: 3646 Join date: 2010-09-04 Age: 26 Location: Hawaii Kai, HI
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:38 pm | |
| From what I hear it's best to not read Wikileaks, if you're planning on a career move for any government job in the nearest future, as they'll soon be requiring I.P. Adresses of sites you've visited in the last 5 years (US). Wow! so now we're threatening people with losing their jobs or ruining their careers for reading "forbidden" material on the Internet? Yeah! and I thought we live in America, not China. Cencorship... Isn't this freedom BS, great? |
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IronMan64

Posts: 521 Join date: 2010-06-05 Age: 28 Location: Germany
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:54 pm | |
| | |SaD|Justth3tip wrote: | From what I hear it's best to not read Wikileaks, if you're planning on a career move for any government job in the nearest future, as they'll soon be requiring I.P. Adresses of sites you've visited in the last 5 years (US).
Wow! so now we're threatening people with losing their jobs or ruining their careers for reading "forbidden" material on the Internet? Yeah! and I thought we live in America, not China. Cencorship... Isn't this freedom BS, great? | Yes I've read the historical dialect of America.Those who know disappear,those who talk are silenced.
Like when I obvserved this documentary about Martin Luther King.Did you know that approximately one year to the day after he made his speech on the wrongness of the Vietname was he was shot to death.
Coencidence?
The U.S. like many nations including our own has cleaned up its act a bit now to only include providing false rumors and threatening "dirt dig ups",and legal or job troubles as opposed to targeted assassinations of its own citezens for getting to close to the truth. |
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|SaD|Justth3tip Director of Recruitment Operations

Posts: 3646 Join date: 2010-09-04 Age: 26 Location: Hawaii Kai, HI
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:38 am | |
| | IronMan64 wrote: | | Yes I've read the historical dialect of America.Those who know disappear,those who talk are silenced. |
Hail Hitler!
| IronMan64 wrote: | | Like when I obvserved this documentary about Martin Luther King.Did you know that approximately one year to the day after he made his speech on the wrongness of the Vietname was he was shot to death. Coencidence? |
Let's just say I still don't believe that Ray's, the real killer.
| IronMan64 wrote: | | The U.S. like many nations including our own has cleaned up its act a bit now to only include providing false rumors and threatening "dirt dig ups",and legal or job troubles as opposed to targeted assassinations of its own citezens for getting to close to the truth. |
Given that Alex Jones, Michael Moore, David Ray Griffin, Steven. E. Jones, Richard Gage, Robert M. Bowman, Jesse Ventura, Cynthia McKinney, Rosie O'Donnell, Janeane Garofalo, Andrew Napolitano, to name a few are all still alive... I couldn't agree more.
Then again, did George Carlin, actually die of natural causes? |
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|SaD|Colt.45 XBox Live Division Commander

Posts: 3658 Join date: 2010-06-04 Age: 26 Location: Chicago,IL
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:38 am | |
| | |SaD|Lillian wrote: | | Stick wrote: | | Rookerman's Pawn wrote: | | wann know what I thinK?I think the news is giving this website way too much credibility and attention.I mean first of all whos to say that all the crap that wikileaks comes out with is true or classified?There are all kind of blog websites out there claiming conspiracies and legitimacy.I think some of the documents are true and some aint lol. | +1.
I do not get why the American media is making such a frenzie out of this when not all of it can even be confirmed and some of it we already knew about,like the prisoner abuse stuff that Iron man mentioned.And then other material on the site is like boring news,Ive been to the site about a week back just curious and Im like.......ok WHO CARES!

without the oil spill they just need something to harp about lol. | There has to be some kind of a watch dog group to make sure that the distracted public is kept up to speed on its government's practices Stick.I mean as you indicated,its not exactly liek we can count ont he boased media. | lol,I find it funny how news networks like CNN and CBS are now following wikileaks update information on their sites like it was written by one of the twelve apostles of Christ or something
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-20026239-503543.html?tag=stack
I hope they confirm this shit with their own sources atleast first.Sheesh
Boy I swear,it doesnt matter what or who you are....religious leader,athlete,organization,movie or music star,website etc. once you've been "Bieberfied" lol whether or not you deserve the spot your in......its a whole different ball game for you from that day on lol. |
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|SaD|Peter Forum Supervision Officer

Posts: 731 Join date: 2010-06-04 Location: East Bay San Frisco
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Thu Dec 23, 2010 10:16 pm | |
| There are interesting documents on Wiki but alot of it is just confirmed heresay not actual evidence of government wrong doing.I mean the site and its founder themselves have been caught up in 10 times more controversy then the actual classifieds they post. |
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|SaD|Peter Forum Supervision Officer

Posts: 731 Join date: 2010-06-04 Location: East Bay San Frisco
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|SaD|Colt.45 XBox Live Division Commander

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|SaD|Peter Forum Supervision Officer

Posts: 731 Join date: 2010-06-04 Location: East Bay San Frisco
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:28 am | |
| | Quote: | LoL Pete yea that would be a doozy wouldnt it?Although there are more and more indicatiosn that King's killing may have actually just been racially motivated and Im not almost 100% certain that Oswald is the ONLY human being responsible for Kennedy's assassination in Dallas.
Discussing this with my father over Christmas weekend I postulated that I think the reason why the many ALLOW themselves to be controlled by the few is simply because they are afraid disorganization or the threat thereof within the system in which we live.The problem is that the way of things now days is not much better. | Hmm could be.The problem what may have occured,the problem is not know what did.There are so many theories and variables out there with conflicting points that its nearly impossibel to connect the dots....if as you indicated,there are any dots at all.
As much as some people even myself want to uncover a broad conspiracy,perhaps it just one killed in the school book depository in Dallas and flop house across from the Lorraine in Memphis with a grudge.Or maybe....our government is just that damn shady(liek at Waco ) |
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|SaD|Peter Forum Supervision Officer

Posts: 731 Join date: 2010-06-04 Location: East Bay San Frisco
 | Subject: Re: WikiLeaks:Legit or full of shit lol? Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:38 am | |
| As far as the choice of the many lower class allowing themselves to be governed by a smaller upper class yes true but the material and financial aspect of the situation too.The upper class have the reserouces to surround themselves with the support they need(whether be legally,militarily,politically etc.) to be able to form and keep a strangle hold on the key parts of society and the world.See you dont have to conquer or even convince everyone only the key figues and locations because everyone derives their life line from virtually the same source.For example if there is one lake bed of water where an entire village gets their water supply from and there isnt another one for miles and miles;say a warlord recruits and arms a group of enforcers and surrounds that lake bed declaring it his own.Then charges everyone for access and declares himself governor over the region.How many people do you think will challenge him?O some will because there is always the renegade or sepertist(as there should be) but most wont,because most dont want trouble just normalty so the village people abide by the new rules and submit to get what they want and need.... |
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